When is the cost of war too much.
I suppose, we could pull out of Afghanistan - it has nothing to do with us, let the corrupt government deal with the taliban.
I suppose we could abandon Pakistan - for if we left Afghanistan, surely we have no need to stay, and given the inevitable fall of Afghanistan, it will directly and immediately flow into Pakistan. We need not remain.
We should not be in Iraq - that much is certain, nor in Kuwait, for the Arabs all hate us anyway.
We should not be in Somalia - Blackhawk Down .. let them all die in their miserable desert.
Except, when we leave, who will remain to hold together what fragile governments exist. Can any government or system remain against the obsessed Islamic killers who seek to dominate and kill.
Somalia - we could certainly say we have no interest in that rat hole, nor in Uganda, nor for that matter in any dark African jungle. Let the people stand up to the invaders if they wish.
The assumptions in these arguments are so flawed as to confound even the most flawed theoretician.
No one in Somalia can stand against armed killers who want to die, in large part because most human beings want to live - they want to die or conquer and enforce their law upon everyone. You would of course tell us that the islam these individuals wish to enforce upon Somalia is not the real Islam. Does it matter?
At what point do you stand and say no more. When do you say no mas? When do you say nyet? When?
When they are banging down your door? It is a bit too late at that time. Just ask Britain.
Somali fighters execute 'spies'
Monday, October 26, 2009
Al Jazeera.com
Gunmen from Somalia's al-Shabab fighters have publicly executed two young men they said had been spies for the government.
A senior member of the group in the port town of Marka said the teenagers had confessed.
They were executed in front of hundreds of people who were summoned to witness the event on Sunday.
"These two young men were involved in spying against our Islamic administration," Sheikh Suldan, an al Shabab official, told reporters in Marka 100km south of the Somali, capital Mogadishu.
"We have been holding them for three months. We investigated and they confessed."
Al-Shabab aims to topple the UN-backed government in Somalia and introduce its own version of Islamic law in the country.
Courts run by al-Shabab officials have ordered executions, floggings and amputations in recent months, mostly in the southern town of Kismayo, but also in districts of the Mogadishu held by the fighters.
Strict laws
The group have also banned movies, mobile phone ringtones, dancing at wedding ceremonies and playing or watching soccer.
Also on Sunday, al-Shabab closed ASEP, a local non-governmental organisation, in the town of Balad Hawa, near the Kenyan border and detained several of its members, according to local residents.
An al-Shabab source told Reuters news agency that the staff had also been accused of spying.
The US has said al-Shabab is a proxy force for Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda group in the failed Horn of Africa state.
About 19,000 civilians have been killed in fighting since the start of 2007 while another 1.5 million have been forced out of their homes.
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