The problem with liberals is they want to emote more often than they want to think very deeply about issues. In fact, forget thinking - simply jump to emotion and skip the in-between phase where you at least pretend you evaluated the facts. We are worse off with these sorts pounding the streets, or driving the streets in their hybrids, doing their bit to destroy the environment all the while holding firm to the pretense they are actually doing good .. emotion. They operate entirely on emotion.
This next story is proof positive and beyond proving they are emotionally crippled children, it lays out very clear for anyone who is of reasonable mind and character how hateful and spiteful they really are.
Read the stories and the revelation at the bottom will shatter the hate-filled ignorance of the Liberal mindset.
FBI Interrogator Says Cookies Convinced Al-Qaeda Suspect To Talk
Posted by samzenpus on Friday May 29, @01:40PM
from the catch-more-flies-with-sugar dept.
Ali Soufan, a former FBI interrogator, says that Osama Bin Laden's bodyguard, Abu Jandal, talked about the 9/11 attack only after he was given sugar free cookies. Jandal is diabetic and was unable to eat the regular cookies given to him with his tea. Noticing this, Soufan offered the suspect sugar-free cookies at their next meeting. Soufan says it was this act of kindness, not rougher methods, that opened up a dialogue between the two. "We had showed him respect, and we had done this nice thing for him. So he started talking to us instead of giving us lectures," Soufan said.
Cookies, not torture, convinced al Qaeda suspect to talk, FBI interrogator says
Raw StoryFriday, May 29, 2009
The practice of torturing suspected terrorists received fresh blows Friday after a magazine reported that a key al Qaeda suspect offered useful intelligence after receiving sugar-free cookies.
Ali Soufan, a former FBI interrogator, revealed in an article being released in June that Osama Bin Laden’s bodyguard opened up about the 9/11 terror attacks only after being offered — sugar free cookies.
Bin Laden lieutenant Abu Jandal is a diabetic, Soufan said, and wouldn’t eat sugar cookies he’d been offered.
“Soufan noticed that he didn’t touch any of the cookies that had been served with tea: ‘He was a diabetic and couldn’t eat anything with sugar in it,’ Time’s Bobby Ghosh wrote. “At their next meeting, the Americans brought him some sugar-free cookies, a gesture that took the edge off Abu Jandal’s angry demeanor.
“We had showed him respect, and we had done this nice thing for him,” Soufan told Ghosh. “So he started talking to us instead of giving us lectures.”
The seemingly absurd report calls into question the efficacy of the Bush administration’s so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques.” A 2005 memo by a Bush administration official revealed that CIA interrogators had waterboarded alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183 times in one month.
Waterboarding — or partial drowning — also drew fire late last week when a conservative radio host voluntarily underwent the procedure and lasted just six seconds before calling off the procedure. He later said that he would have said anything to have gotten his handlers to stop.
Ghosh also paints Abu Jandal as having transformed almost miraculously after his interrogators showed him humanity.
Prior to the cookies incident, “Abu Jandal’s guards were so intimidated by him, they wore masks to hide their identities and begged visitors not to refer to them by name in his presence,” Ghosh writes. “He had no intention of cooperating with the Americans; at their first meetings, he refused even to look at them and ranted about the evils of the West. Far from confirming al-Qaeda’s involvement in 9/11, he insisted the attacks had been orchestrated by Israel’s Mossad.”
Afterward, the al Qaeda operative who grew up in Saudi Arabia and had been held in a Yemeni prison, offered myriad details about the terror network and its membership.
“It took more questioning, and some interrogators’ sleight of hand, before the Yemeni gave up a wealth of information about al-Qaeda — including the identities of seven of the 9/11 bombers — but the cookies were the turning point,” Ghosh writes.
“After that, he could no longer think of us as evil Americans,” Soufan said. “Now he was thinking of us as human beings.”
Soufan’s comments come on the heels of statements by a former military interrogator who said that he believed that the Bush administration’s torture policies actually cost “hundreds — if not thousands” of American lives.
“Torture does not save lives,” the interrogator, who spoke under a pseudonym, said. “And the reason why is that our enemies use it, number one, as a recruiting tool…These same foreign fighters who came to Iraq to fight because of torture and abuse….literally cost us hundreds if not thousands of American lives.”
-John Byrne
Sugar-Free Cookies: More Effective Than Waterboarding (TRUE STORY)!
by The Erratic Synapse
Fri May 29, 2009 at 07:25:06 PM PDT
Did I mention this was a true story?
The most successful interrogation of an Al-Qaeda operative by U.S. officials required no sleep deprivation, no slapping or "walling" and no waterboarding. All it took to soften up Abu Jandal, who had been closer to Osama bin Laden than any other terrorist ever captured, was a handful of sugar-free cookies.
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Time supplies the pertinent background information:
Abu Jandal had been in a Yemeni prison for nearly a year when Ali Soufan of the FBI and Robert McFadden of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service arrived to interrogate him in the week after 9/11. Although there was already evidence that al-Qaeda was behind the attacks, American authorities needed conclusive proof, not least to satisfy skeptics like Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, whose support was essential for any action against the terrorist organization. U.S. intelligence agencies also needed a better understanding of al-Qaeda's structure and leadership. Abu Jandal was the perfect source: the Yemeni who grew up in Saudi Arabia had been bin Laden's chief bodyguard, trusted not only to protect him but also to put a bullet in his head rather than let him be captured.
Unsurprisingly, Abu Jandal did everything in his power to not cooperate with the American interrogators, went on rants about how the United States was evil, and intimidated guards at the facility where he was held to a point where they masked their identities. So naturally, Soufan and company were faced with a choice regarding what to do next: would they employ "enhanced interrogation techniques" or would they try something else?
Soufan noticed that Abu Jandal did not eat any of the cookies that were brought to him. This was because he was diabetic. So when it came time to question him further, the Americans brought sugar-free cookies. The result?
At their next meeting, the Americans brought him some sugar-free cookies, a gesture that took the edge off Abu Jandal's angry demeanor. "We had showed him respect, and we had done this nice thing for him," Soufan recalls. "So he started talking to us instead of giving us lectures."
It took more questioning, and some interrogators' sleight of hand, before the Yemeni gave up a wealth of information about al-Qaeda — including the identities of seven of the 9/11 bombers — but the cookies were the turning point. "After that, he could no longer think of us as evil Americans," Soufan says. "Now he was thinking of us as human beings."
Dear God, a human gesture yields human dialogue? Whoddathunkit? I'm not under the illusion that this will work each time we do it, but this is an example of a broader strategy we should be adopting that Bill Clinton summed up perfectly in his DNC speech: "People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power."
Anyway, aren't patronizing quotes like this funny now?
- Liberals want us to offer captured terrorists tea and cookies to get information from them.
Bin Laden's driver ... ha ha ha ... Bin laden's driver, the man that the looney left is using as an example of how hugs and cookies can do more than torture (based upon a foolish FBI interrogator - he needs to be reassigned). It is indeed very funny reading the posts and following the links to other blog sites where more idiotic ramblings go unquestioned -
Abu Jandal was the source that told us Bin laden had nuclear weapons!!!! LOL
He has been discredited, at least publicly - given the fact no one will admit that bin laden has nuclear weapons. LOL
His revelations tell us a great deal about bin Laden, like the fact he was on kidney dialysis in a hospital and the CIA came and made a deal with him. roflol
He also told us about the Pakistani nuclear scientist who was taken to a cave and introduced to Bin laden who spent some time talking to the scientist about nuclear weapons and using them, hiding them, transporting them ... brilliant!
So now the left want to believe him ... lol. Please. If your cookies and milk worked on him, he lied, and if he didn't lie, you and I are really fucked because bin laden has nuclear weapons, which in the end undermines your whole love and cookies bit.
And they have attached themselves to this guy and the benefits derived from milk and cookies, just as they have attached themselves to Obama - they have to be right or their world will implode. Had they done any checking on Jandal ... any, even the least research, and then, once having done the research, evaluated it in light of what the facts are as presented by the United States government, Obama, and the intelligence services of several countries ... the guy is a liar.
Hysterically funny.