I have to wonder if this is a planned effort or whether they wake up and decide to act individually. Given my diminished respect for independent thought and creativity, I do not suspect individual brilliance.
Imagine the following scenarios before going to the story:
- imagine if in the country of Doop, population 10 million, that 88% are Retro faith, 10% are Modernists and the remaining 2% are a mixture of other beliefs. Imagine the laws of the country are written around the Retro faith, the government is a majority of Retro. Imagine if the Modernists were unable to expand - could not build new schools or temples, could not preach their values. The courts, police, laws, government are dominated by Retro ... Modernists meet to discuss their future and what they can do to protect their future. Retro citizens see this as a threat to their way of life and make accusations against the Modernists. They call for investigations and arrests, they call for public denunciations and reaffirmations about the place of Retro life. So in this case can Modernists be a threat in any serious way?
- imagine if in the country of Doop, population 10 million, that 88% are Retro faith, 10% are Modernists and the remaining 2% are a mixture of other beliefs. Imagine the laws of the country are written around the Retro faith, the government is a majority of Retro. Imagine if the Modernists were unable to expand - could not build new schools or temples, could not preach their values. The courts, police, laws, government are dominated by Retro ... Modernists meet to discuss their future and what they can do to protect their future. Retro citizens see this as a threat to their way of life and make accusations against the Modernists. They call for investigations and arrests, they call for public denunciations and reaffirmations about the place of Retro life. So in this case can Modernists be a threat in any serious way?
- imagine if in the country of Doop, population 10 million, that 88% are Retro faith, 10% are Modernists and the remaining 2% are a mixture of other beliefs. Imagine the laws of the country are written around the Retro faith, the government is a majority of Retro. However imagine that the Modernists were able to contort the laws to ensure they have equal access to the courts, and that the laws are modified to comport with a newly developed view on freedom and rights. That the majority will not rule, rather the minority will threaten or complain, until the majority revise the laws and social construction to assimilate the Modernists. Except the modernists are not assimilating for their values become enshrined in Retro's laws and are protected. Imagine Modernists pushing for separate laws, separate schools, a separate society within Retro that is not subject to all of the laws and social values imposed on the rest of Retro. Imagine if the Retro could not build unless they had the agreement of all communities and for each new building built for Retro, 1 was built for Modernists. Imagine if Modernists lobbied well in the courts and political system and new laws were created protecting the minority in real and imagined cases and each time Modernists complained, investigations and lawsuits followed until Retro citizens stopped trying to maintain their culture. The minority groups championed this action as one that opens society up for all citizens, yet of all the minority groups, none were as interested in preserving and promoting culture as were the Modernists who seized the opportunity and expanded their reach - promoting their values everywhere. Unlike the Retro and others who could not for fear of violating the hate laws or ethnocentric attacks ... Modernists continued their expansion into the political, religious - even asking Retro temples to let them use their temples when not used.
Religious tensions brewing in Malaysia over claims Christians want to supplant Islam
By Sean Yoong, The Associated Press
The Canadian Press
May 8, 2011
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Malaysia's government sought to defuse new religious tensions Monday following allegations that church leaders were conspiring to make Christianity the official religion in this Muslim-majority country.
Christian officials insist the accusation is a lie intended to create suspicion between ethnic Malay Muslims and religious minorities, but several Muslim activists have filed police complaints demanding an investigation into what they consider a threat to the position of Islam.
A string of religious disputes in recent years, often involving minority complaints of discrimination, has triggered persistent feelings of insecurity among both Malaysian Muslims and minorities about their religious rights in a country that prides itself on multiethnic peace.
The allegation by two anonymous political bloggers about a plot by Christian leaders received little attention until the country's leading Malay-language newspaper reported it on its front page Saturday under the headline "Malaysia a Christian nation?"
The Utusan Malaysia newspaper is owned by Prime Minister Najib Razak's Malay-dominated ruling party. It said dozens of pastors were believed to have pledged at a recent meeting to make Christianity the official religion of Malaysia and have a prime minister elected from the Christian community, which comprises about 10 per cent of Malaysia's 28 million people.
Najib said late Sunday authorities will investigate the claim, but stressed the issue should not be sensationalized.
"Calm down until we get the facts," Najib said. "If there is anyone who tries to jeopardize national peace, we will not allow it to happen because what is important is national harmony."
Christian groups acknowledge there was a meeting last week, but say it was meant to honour some Christian pastors and discuss regular religious issues, not politics.
The accusations are "insidious, provocative and malicious lies" that have "the effect of creating religious disharmony, inciting hatred and heaping odium on Christians," Archbishop Murphy Pakiam, who heads the Catholic Church in peninsular Malaysia, said in a statement.
Opposition politician Lim Guan Eng warned Monday that the government would have to "bear full responsibility for any undesirable consequences on the Christian community in Malaysia" because of Utusan's report.
Tensions surged briefly last January when 11 churches suffered firebomb attacks and vandalism amid anger among some Muslims over a court verdict allowing minorities to use "Allah" as a translation for God. Some Muslims say the use of "Allah" in Christian literature could be used to convert Muslims, who comprise nearly two-thirds of the population.
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Imagine the following scenarios before going to the story:
- imagine if in the country of Doop, population 10 million, that 88% are Retro faith, 10% are Modernists and the remaining 2% are a mixture of other beliefs. Imagine the laws of the country are written around the Retro faith, the government is a majority of Retro. Imagine if the Modernists were unable to expand - could not build new schools or temples, could not preach their values. The courts, police, laws, government are dominated by Retro ... Modernists meet to discuss their future and what they can do to protect their future. Retro citizens see this as a threat to their way of life and make accusations against the Modernists. They call for investigations and arrests, they call for public denunciations and reaffirmations about the place of Retro life. So in this case can Modernists be a threat in any serious way?
- imagine if in the country of Doop, population 10 million, that 88% are Retro faith, 10% are Modernists and the remaining 2% are a mixture of other beliefs. Imagine the laws of the country are written around the Retro faith, the government is a majority of Retro. Imagine if the Modernists were unable to expand - could not build new schools or temples, could not preach their values. The courts, police, laws, government are dominated by Retro ... Modernists meet to discuss their future and what they can do to protect their future. Retro citizens see this as a threat to their way of life and make accusations against the Modernists. They call for investigations and arrests, they call for public denunciations and reaffirmations about the place of Retro life. So in this case can Modernists be a threat in any serious way?
- imagine if in the country of Doop, population 10 million, that 88% are Retro faith, 10% are Modernists and the remaining 2% are a mixture of other beliefs. Imagine the laws of the country are written around the Retro faith, the government is a majority of Retro. However imagine that the Modernists were able to contort the laws to ensure they have equal access to the courts, and that the laws are modified to comport with a newly developed view on freedom and rights. That the majority will not rule, rather the minority will threaten or complain, until the majority revise the laws and social construction to assimilate the Modernists. Except the modernists are not assimilating for their values become enshrined in Retro's laws and are protected. Imagine Modernists pushing for separate laws, separate schools, a separate society within Retro that is not subject to all of the laws and social values imposed on the rest of Retro. Imagine if the Retro could not build unless they had the agreement of all communities and for each new building built for Retro, 1 was built for Modernists. Imagine if Modernists lobbied well in the courts and political system and new laws were created protecting the minority in real and imagined cases and each time Modernists complained, investigations and lawsuits followed until Retro citizens stopped trying to maintain their culture. The minority groups championed this action as one that opens society up for all citizens, yet of all the minority groups, none were as interested in preserving and promoting culture as were the Modernists who seized the opportunity and expanded their reach - promoting their values everywhere. Unlike the Retro and others who could not for fear of violating the hate laws or ethnocentric attacks ... Modernists continued their expansion into the political, religious - even asking Retro temples to let them use their temples when not used.
Religious tensions brewing in Malaysia over claims Christians want to supplant Islam
By Sean Yoong, The Associated Press
The Canadian Press
May 8, 2011
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Malaysia's government sought to defuse new religious tensions Monday following allegations that church leaders were conspiring to make Christianity the official religion in this Muslim-majority country.
Christian officials insist the accusation is a lie intended to create suspicion between ethnic Malay Muslims and religious minorities, but several Muslim activists have filed police complaints demanding an investigation into what they consider a threat to the position of Islam.
A string of religious disputes in recent years, often involving minority complaints of discrimination, has triggered persistent feelings of insecurity among both Malaysian Muslims and minorities about their religious rights in a country that prides itself on multiethnic peace.
The allegation by two anonymous political bloggers about a plot by Christian leaders received little attention until the country's leading Malay-language newspaper reported it on its front page Saturday under the headline "Malaysia a Christian nation?"
The Utusan Malaysia newspaper is owned by Prime Minister Najib Razak's Malay-dominated ruling party. It said dozens of pastors were believed to have pledged at a recent meeting to make Christianity the official religion of Malaysia and have a prime minister elected from the Christian community, which comprises about 10 per cent of Malaysia's 28 million people.
Najib said late Sunday authorities will investigate the claim, but stressed the issue should not be sensationalized.
"Calm down until we get the facts," Najib said. "If there is anyone who tries to jeopardize national peace, we will not allow it to happen because what is important is national harmony."
Christian groups acknowledge there was a meeting last week, but say it was meant to honour some Christian pastors and discuss regular religious issues, not politics.
The accusations are "insidious, provocative and malicious lies" that have "the effect of creating religious disharmony, inciting hatred and heaping odium on Christians," Archbishop Murphy Pakiam, who heads the Catholic Church in peninsular Malaysia, said in a statement.
Opposition politician Lim Guan Eng warned Monday that the government would have to "bear full responsibility for any undesirable consequences on the Christian community in Malaysia" because of Utusan's report.
Tensions surged briefly last January when 11 churches suffered firebomb attacks and vandalism amid anger among some Muslims over a court verdict allowing minorities to use "Allah" as a translation for God. Some Muslims say the use of "Allah" in Christian literature could be used to convert Muslims, who comprise nearly two-thirds of the population.
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